Why “The Order” INCEST Polygamy Cult Sees Women as Possessions ft. @TheAmandaRaeGrant
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"The Order" or the "Kingston
"The Order" or the "Kingston Clan" is known for their incestuous practices of polygamy in an effort to keep their "bloodline pure". They are a fundamentalist branch of Mormonism in Salt Lake City where marrying 1st cousins and even half siblings is seen as perfectly fine. @TheAmandaRaeGrant who was raised in this group, escaped at 17 and was seen on the TV show "Escaping Polygamy" helping others to do the same. Learn the ins and outs of this cult and why she so badly wanted out.
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Find Amanda!
YouTube: @TheAmandaRaeGrant
IG: @amandaraegrant
Resource for help leaving polygamy
https://holdingouthelp.org/
Remove your records from the LDS church
Quitmormon.com
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Chapter Markers:
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:07 Her incestuous family bush
00:03:43 The leader, Paul, has 27 wives
00:04:09 The deformities with inbreeding
00:05:02 Men are becoming infertile...Secret IVF
00:07:16 Pregnant women dying for lack of medical care
00:09:12 Why they believe they need to have so many children
00:10:30 Why are they so desperate to practice polygamy?
00:13:23 How they viewed early prophets and current prophets (including their own)
00:16:32 Why do they insist on "keeping bloodlines pure"?
00:19:02 The INSANE expectations of these women/mothers
00:20:27 C2C Exclusive! Story from Amanda's childhood
00:21:14 How you are your father's property until he gives you to your husband
00:23:44 All the ways women are controlled
00:26:40 Why polygamy in her group was coerced and non-consensual
00:32:59 Has anybody deconstructed Mormonism as a whole in The Order?
00:39:29 How can someone be ok with marrying their half sibling?
00:42:04 Let's talk age gaps
00:44:48 Why the LDS church calls their gathering of women the "relief society"
00:46:08 Blood atonement enacted by extreme LDS fundamentalists
00:50:43 Confessions and tattletales
00:58:32 Their perspective on miscarriage & their "duty" to conceive
01:00:31 A throwback, cringy LDS movie
01:04:22 The women don't realize they hold all the power
01:07:25 Us apostates are lost causes as far as the afterlife is concerned
01:10:29 HOW TO REMOVE YOUR RECORDS from the LDS church
01:14:47 COMMENTER Q: Describe the banking in The Order
01:17:45 COMMENTER Q: Updates on the girls from Escaping Polygamy
01:19:56 Discovering our sense of "Self"
01:22:57 How is Amanda now? Self reflections
01:28:46 COMMENTER Q: Resources for people trying to escape polygamy
01:30:50 Linda, Listen
Theme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara
*Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.*
Support Shelise
Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast
Patreon
Patreon: cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find Amanda!
YouTube: @TheAmandaRaeGrant
IG: @amandaraegrant
Resource for help leaving polygamy
https://holdingouthelp.org/
Remove your records from the LDS church
Quitmormon.com
https://quitmormon.com/
Find Shelise on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Instagram: cultstoconsiousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Instagram: sheliseann
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
TikTok: cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
Twitter: cultstocon
Chapter Markers:
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:07 Her incestuous family bush
00:03:43 The leader, Paul, has 27 wives
00:04:09 The deformities with inbreeding
00:05:02 Men are becoming infertile...Secret IVF
00:07:16 Pregnant women dying for lack of medical care
00:09:12 Why they believe they need to have so many children
00:10:30 Why are they so desperate to practice polygamy?
00:13:23 How they viewed early prophets and current prophets (including their own)
00:16:32 Why do they insist on "keeping bloodlines pure"?
00:19:02 The INSANE expectations of these women/mothers
00:20:27 C2C Exclusive! Story from Amanda's childhood
00:21:14 How you are your father's property until he gives you to your husband
00:23:44 All the ways women are controlled
00:26:40 Why polygamy in her group was coerced and non-consensual
00:32:59 Has anybody deconstructed Mormonism as a whole in The Order?
00:39:29 How can someone be ok with marrying their half sibling?
00:42:04 Let's talk age gaps
00:44:48 Why the LDS church calls their gathering of women the "relief society"
00:46:08 Blood atonement enacted by extreme LDS fundamentalists
00:50:43 Confessions and tattletales
00:58:32 Their perspective on miscarriage & their "duty" to conceive
01:00:31 A throwback, cringy LDS movie
01:04:22 The women don't realize they hold all the power
01:07:25 Us apostates are lost causes as far as the afterlife is concerned
01:10:29 HOW TO REMOVE YOUR RECORDS from the LDS church
01:14:47 COMMENTER Q: Describe the banking in The Order
01:17:45 COMMENTER Q: Updates on the girls from Escaping Polygamy
01:19:56 Discovering our sense of "Self"
01:22:57 How is Amanda now? Self reflections
01:28:46 COMMENTER Q: Resources for people trying to escape polygamy
01:30:50 Linda, Listen
Theme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara
*Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.*
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