Ava DuVernay Shares Life-Changing Career Advice From Shonda Rhimes

From one of the hardest working women in the entertainment industry to another, Ava DuVernay shares the impactful career advice she received from Shonda Rhimes after feeling overworked. Ava and Kelly also reminisce on their time working as waitresses early in their careers, how Little Richard basically put Ava through college, and their mutual love for U2.

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