Sound for Video Session — CEDAR sdnx noise suppression demo & Q&A
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In this week's session, we
In this week's session, we demonstrate the CEDAR sdnx noise suppression plugin for Sound Devices 8xx series recorders. This is real-time noise reduction optimized for dialogue on the Sound Devices pro-level mixer/recorders. Then we answer your sound for video questions.
If you’d like to learn how to make great dialogue audio for your film and video projects, please have a look at my courses at https://school.learnlightandsound.com including processing dialogue audio in Adobe Audition and DaVinci Resolve/Fairlight, recording sound, how to use the Zoom F4, F6, F8, and F8n, and how to get the most from the Sound Devices MixPre series of recorders. We have a course on sound for live-streaming with the ATEM Mini and just added Introduction to Izotope RX for Dialogue Audio.
Gear I often use or that we mentioned in this episode. The links below are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, Sweetwater, DVE Store, Waves, or other affiliate links. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases:
- CEDAR sdnx plugin — Sound Devices https://geni.us/PHHE4oi
- Sound Devices 888 production mixer/recorder — Trew Audio, B&H, Sweetwater https://geni.us/zAryW4J
- Sound Devices 833 production mixer/recorder — Trew Audio, B&H, Sweetwater https://geni.us/Toim
- Earthworks ETHOS microphone — B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/8G8UdBB
- RODECaster Pro II audio workstation — B&H, Sweetwater, DVE Store, Amazon https://geni.us/iFlEMB
- Sound Devices MixPre II Series Recorders - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/O8e0
- Panasonic GH5 camera - B&H, Amazon https://geni.us/InspOl
- Canon C200 Camera - B&H https://geni.us/9Zi4m4a
- Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 lens — B&H, Amazon https://geni.us/kZyU7e
- ATEM Mini Extreme & Extreme ISO - B&H, DVE Store, Amazon https://geni.us/b8my
- Allen & Heath SQ5 Digital Mixer - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/sRxFU90
- Rupert Neve Designs Shelford Channel, pre-amp, EQ, compressor - Sweetwater, B&H https://geni.us/9ZfE77
- Universal Audio 6176 channel strip pre-amp, EQ, compressor — B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/505L55n
The intro and outro music for this episode is from Musicbed. Take your films to the next level with music from Musicbed. Sign up for a free account to listen for yourself: https://geni.us/G7by
Copyright 2023, Curtis Judd
00:00 Start
02:41 Beginning of stream
03:17 Agenda
04:46 About CEDAR sdnx
08:30 Differences between NoiseAssist and sdnx
10:03 Demo with background fan noise
18:22 Is sdnx just a ‘smart gate’?
19:26 How does AutoMix play in to noise reduction?
22:04 Latency
23:07 Do certain sdnx settings introduce ‘pumping’?
26:17 Have realistic expectations.
29:33 Determining whether or not a tool is for you
33:55 Is NoiseAssist better at handling sudden noises?
34:23 Incorporating CEDAR into your processing signal chain
37:05 Differences in NoiseAssist on MixPre versus 8 Series
41:20 CEDAR for the MixPre series…?
41:55 Delay/latency from NoiseAssist?
44:10 Why the JZ Mics V11 for today’s stream?
45:14 Discussing on-location sound treatment
47:37 Round-tripping from Premiere to Audition on Windows
48:28 Today’s signal chain
50:06 How to avoid losing words to sloppy gate settings
51:02 Recommendations of specific sound blanket brands
52:43 Why record with a Sanken lav, MKH416, AND an MKH-50?
57:15 Which of the mics ends up being used most often?
57:43 No Shelford channel in today’s signal chain
57:58 March Madness picks
1:00:04 Thoughts of replacing the 50 with the 8050?
1:01:23 Our preferred lav mic polar patterns
1:05:17 Wrap-up
1:05:39 End of stream
If you’d like to learn how to make great dialogue audio for your film and video projects, please have a look at my courses at https://school.learnlightandsound.com including processing dialogue audio in Adobe Audition and DaVinci Resolve/Fairlight, recording sound, how to use the Zoom F4, F6, F8, and F8n, and how to get the most from the Sound Devices MixPre series of recorders. We have a course on sound for live-streaming with the ATEM Mini and just added Introduction to Izotope RX for Dialogue Audio.
Gear I often use or that we mentioned in this episode. The links below are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, Sweetwater, DVE Store, Waves, or other affiliate links. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases:
- CEDAR sdnx plugin — Sound Devices https://geni.us/PHHE4oi
- Sound Devices 888 production mixer/recorder — Trew Audio, B&H, Sweetwater https://geni.us/zAryW4J
- Sound Devices 833 production mixer/recorder — Trew Audio, B&H, Sweetwater https://geni.us/Toim
- Earthworks ETHOS microphone — B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/8G8UdBB
- RODECaster Pro II audio workstation — B&H, Sweetwater, DVE Store, Amazon https://geni.us/iFlEMB
- Sound Devices MixPre II Series Recorders - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/O8e0
- Panasonic GH5 camera - B&H, Amazon https://geni.us/InspOl
- Canon C200 Camera - B&H https://geni.us/9Zi4m4a
- Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 lens — B&H, Amazon https://geni.us/kZyU7e
- ATEM Mini Extreme & Extreme ISO - B&H, DVE Store, Amazon https://geni.us/b8my
- Allen & Heath SQ5 Digital Mixer - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/sRxFU90
- Rupert Neve Designs Shelford Channel, pre-amp, EQ, compressor - Sweetwater, B&H https://geni.us/9ZfE77
- Universal Audio 6176 channel strip pre-amp, EQ, compressor — B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon https://geni.us/505L55n
The intro and outro music for this episode is from Musicbed. Take your films to the next level with music from Musicbed. Sign up for a free account to listen for yourself: https://geni.us/G7by
Copyright 2023, Curtis Judd
00:00 Start
02:41 Beginning of stream
03:17 Agenda
04:46 About CEDAR sdnx
08:30 Differences between NoiseAssist and sdnx
10:03 Demo with background fan noise
18:22 Is sdnx just a ‘smart gate’?
19:26 How does AutoMix play in to noise reduction?
22:04 Latency
23:07 Do certain sdnx settings introduce ‘pumping’?
26:17 Have realistic expectations.
29:33 Determining whether or not a tool is for you
33:55 Is NoiseAssist better at handling sudden noises?
34:23 Incorporating CEDAR into your processing signal chain
37:05 Differences in NoiseAssist on MixPre versus 8 Series
41:20 CEDAR for the MixPre series…?
41:55 Delay/latency from NoiseAssist?
44:10 Why the JZ Mics V11 for today’s stream?
45:14 Discussing on-location sound treatment
47:37 Round-tripping from Premiere to Audition on Windows
48:28 Today’s signal chain
50:06 How to avoid losing words to sloppy gate settings
51:02 Recommendations of specific sound blanket brands
52:43 Why record with a Sanken lav, MKH416, AND an MKH-50?
57:15 Which of the mics ends up being used most often?
57:43 No Shelford channel in today’s signal chain
57:58 March Madness picks
1:00:04 Thoughts of replacing the 50 with the 8050?
1:01:23 Our preferred lav mic polar patterns
1:05:17 Wrap-up
1:05:39 End of stream
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