FORCED Ultra Orthodox to Non-Binary Secularism
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You met Chavie in a
You met Chavie in a previous episode. A determined mother who took a long hard road out of Hasidic Judaism so her children could have more choices that she did growing up. Now you get to hear from one of her children! Ruby recounts what it was like being forced to live a judge ordered Hasidic lifestyle, until they stood up and said no. From learning what they had been missing in school, to unearthing social media for the first time at 17, they are now living the life THEY chose for themselves!
To watch Chavie's previous episode, click below!
ULTRA ORTHODOX: Hasidic Jewish Sect F...
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Chapter Markers:
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:08 Disclaimer & reading your comments!
00:04:37 Chavie recap's her story that leads to today's discussion
00:08:14 Ruby's double life growing up in split custody
00:09:34 Ruby dealing with the discouragement of pets in the community
00:11:00 Did Ruby feel Hasidic in a Secular world or Non Hasidic in a Hasidic world?
00:13:46 What was it like for Chavie watching Ruby bloom with restrictive parenting court orders
00:16:22 When Ruby felt that they came into their diverse identity
00:21:09 What Ruby thought of what was taught of a "woman's role"
00:23:08 Does Ruby attribute their way of thinking to their mother?
00:23:40 What Chavie thinks of Ruby's journey
00:24:42 Chavie was worried her kids weren't pushing back enough
00:27:04 During split custody, did Ruby attend a Secular or Hasidic school?
00:28:35 What did Ruby miss about the Hasidic schooling?
00:29:51 Did Ruby feel that something was missing?
00:3:13 Ruby's breaking point
00:35:39 Ruby talks to the judge about their lack of education
00:37:00 What was it like for Chavie watching Ruby stand up to the Judge?
00:39:19 Ruby expressing themself for the first time in public school
00:41:40 Need help with technology use as a first timer
00:44:29 What being introduced to social media was like for Ruby
00:46:28 Exploring the internet for the first time
00:47:15 Chavie thoughts on her child on the internet
00:48:43 Ruby falling for a scam on the internet
00:51:18 Ruby opens up to Mom
00:53:49 Do Ruby and Chavie believe in Judaism to some degree now?
00:57:25 Linda, Listen
01:00:08 Find Chavie & Ruby on Social
01:00:38 Donate to & support resources for people leaving Hasidic communities
Meet up Group:
https://www.meetup.com/interfaithless...
Support those who have left hasidic communities
https://footstepsorg.org/
Ruby on Social:
IG: @freedomartcollective
Instagram: freedomartcollective
Photo of Chavie & Ruby by Jonah Markowitz
Find Shelise on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
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Host Instagram @sheliseann
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TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
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Twitter @cultstocon
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Theme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara
*Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.*
To watch Chavie's previous episode, click below!
ULTRA ORTHODOX: Hasidic Jewish Sect F...
Support Shelise
Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast
Patreon
Patreon: cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Chapter Markers:
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:08 Disclaimer & reading your comments!
00:04:37 Chavie recap's her story that leads to today's discussion
00:08:14 Ruby's double life growing up in split custody
00:09:34 Ruby dealing with the discouragement of pets in the community
00:11:00 Did Ruby feel Hasidic in a Secular world or Non Hasidic in a Hasidic world?
00:13:46 What was it like for Chavie watching Ruby bloom with restrictive parenting court orders
00:16:22 When Ruby felt that they came into their diverse identity
00:21:09 What Ruby thought of what was taught of a "woman's role"
00:23:08 Does Ruby attribute their way of thinking to their mother?
00:23:40 What Chavie thinks of Ruby's journey
00:24:42 Chavie was worried her kids weren't pushing back enough
00:27:04 During split custody, did Ruby attend a Secular or Hasidic school?
00:28:35 What did Ruby miss about the Hasidic schooling?
00:29:51 Did Ruby feel that something was missing?
00:3:13 Ruby's breaking point
00:35:39 Ruby talks to the judge about their lack of education
00:37:00 What was it like for Chavie watching Ruby stand up to the Judge?
00:39:19 Ruby expressing themself for the first time in public school
00:41:40 Need help with technology use as a first timer
00:44:29 What being introduced to social media was like for Ruby
00:46:28 Exploring the internet for the first time
00:47:15 Chavie thoughts on her child on the internet
00:48:43 Ruby falling for a scam on the internet
00:51:18 Ruby opens up to Mom
00:53:49 Do Ruby and Chavie believe in Judaism to some degree now?
00:57:25 Linda, Listen
01:00:08 Find Chavie & Ruby on Social
01:00:38 Donate to & support resources for people leaving Hasidic communities
Meet up Group:
https://www.meetup.com/interfaithless...
Support those who have left hasidic communities
https://footstepsorg.org/
Ruby on Social:
IG: @freedomartcollective
Instagram: freedomartcollective
Photo of Chavie & Ruby by Jonah Markowitz
Find Shelise on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Instagram: cultstoconsiousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Instagram: sheliseann
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
TikTok: cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
Twitter: cultstocon
Theme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara
*Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.*
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