Owen Jones meets Naomi Klein | 'We've run out of time for mistakes'

I met a hero of mine Naomi Klein to discuss her concept of the three fires: climate change, political fires, and the fire in the movement pushing for change. We also talk about how Donald Trump capitalised on the climate crisis, why Greta Thunberg instils terror in people and discuss the tactics of Extinction Rebellion and the impact mistakes could have on the climate movement. I also ask who she'd root for in a UK election

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