Moving Beyond Polarization in Service of Life | Reality Roundtable 10

(Conversation recorded on June 14th, 2024) Show Summary: There’s a growing understanding of the need for biodiversity across ecosystems for a healthy and resilient biosphere. What if we applied the same principles to the way we communicate and use language to relate to each other and the world? Today Nate is joined by Nora Bateson, Rex Weyler, Vanessa Andreotti, and Daniel Schmachtenberger to talk about the ecology of communication. This important conversation addresses some of the traps and pitfalls of modern relating, including the use of increasingly performative language and the erosion of authentic connection, both of which can leave us feeling isolated from one another. The panelists then offer ideas for how to shift from this axis of polarization into a space of mutual learning together, no matter how disparate each other’s views may seem at first glance. What if we were to start conversations from a place of commonality, without choosing sides, to create more inquisitive exchanges that lead us to deeper insights about one another amidst a cacophonous world? Why is it crucial to consider the broader context in which conversations unfold - nestled within people, ideas, and cultures - in order to fully grasp the complexity of the relationships that connect us all? How would shifting the way we communicate help us ask the right questions about the species-level challenges we face, and better equip us to hear the answers? About Nora Bateson: Nora Bateson is an award-winning filmmaker, writer and educator, as well as President of the International Bateson Institute, based in Sweden. Her work asks the question “How can we improve our perception of the complexity we live within, so we may improve our interaction with the world?” About Rex Weyler: Rex Weyler is a writer and ecologist. His books include Blood of the Land, a history of indigenous American nations, nominated for a Pulitzer Prize; Greenpeace: The Inside Story, a finalist for the BC Book Award and the Shaughnessy-Cohen Award for Political Writing; and The Jesus Sayings, a deconstruction of first century history, a finalist for the BC Book Award. About Vannessa Andreotti: Vanessa de Oliveira Andreotti is the Dean of the Faculty of Education at the University of Victoria. She is a former Canada Research Chair in Race, Inequalities and Global Change and a former David Lam Chair in Critical Multicultural Education. Vanessa has more than 100 published articles in areas related to global and climate education. She has also worked extensively across sectors internationally in projects related to global justice, global citizenship, Indigenous knowledge systems and the climate and nature emergency. About Daniel Schmachtenberger: Daniel Schmachtenberger is a founding member of The Consilience Project, aimed at improving public sensemaking and dialogue. The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. For Show Notes and More visit: www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/reality-rou… 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:05:14 - Nora Bateson on Ecology of Communication 00:11:17 - Rex Weyler on Monoculture and Ecosystem Change 00:16:17 - Vanessa Andreotti on Colonialism and Communication 00:25:24 - Daniel Schmachtenberger on Interconnectedness and Authenticity 00:32:24 - Communication Preferences 00:38:24 - Performative Communication 00:42:43 - Warm Data Labs 00:53:08 - Communication in the Age of Social Media 01:02:27 - Conversation as Technology 01:14:05 - Practices for Better Communication 01:22:00 - Listening vs. Speaking 01:30:06 - Polarized Conversations 01:38:57 - Closing Thoughts Music: Frontiers by Revo Licensed through Music Vine License ID: S549586-16003 Support Institute for the Study of Energy and Our Future: www.thegreatsimplification.com/support Join our Substack newsletter: natehagens.substack.com Join our Discord channel and connect with other listeners: discord.gg/ZFfQqtqMJf