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Is Moral Disgust Just Bad
Is Moral Disgust Just Bad Evolution?
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Ever heard a story that made you sick to your stomach? There is neurological wizardry at work that makes our sense of morality so visceral—and flawed. Have you ever witnessed something that made you sick to your stomach? Have you listened to a story so evil that you felt you might faint? Humans are different from other animals because we have a mind for symbolism. This knack for metaphor complicates our lives, and that is evident at a neurological level. Robert Sapolsky, professor of biology and neurology at Stanford University, explains that our insular cortex evolved to teach us to feel disgusted by things that would harm us: the taste of rotten fruit, the smell of infection—those triggers set off a visceral reaction (like nausea, gagging, vomiting). Gradually, our societies developed a concept of moral transgression but evolution didn't keep pace. Rather than evolve a new brain region to process moral disgust, it was (and is) funneled through the insular cortex. Our bodies can't tell the difference between moral and visceral disgust, which is why we very often mistake things that are strange to us as things that are bad or immoral. This explains why people are so judgmental about alternative lifestyles, and feel confident labelling other people's decisions as "wrong" and theirs as "right". Awareness of this misattributed impulse reaction can hopefully help us pause and think beyond our faulty wiring. Our moral instincts may be seriously flawed. Robert Sapolsky is the author of Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst.
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ROBERT M SAPOLSKY :
Robert M. Sapolsky holds degrees from Harvard and Rockefeller Universities and is currently a Professor of Biology and Neurology at Stanford University and a Research Associate with the Institute of Primate Research, National Museums of Kenya. His most recent book is Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst.
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Robert Sapolsky: We think metaphorically. We think in parables. We think in ways that are unrecognizable to other species. And that’s maybe 50,000 years old, right around the time that our ancestors started doing things like throwing pigment on the walls of a cave and this pattern of colors stands for an animal, stands for painting, cave paintings. The first sign that this is not a horse, this is a picture of a horse. And that was an incredible leap forward.
So we’re this symbolic species and our brain does this unbelievably fancy symbolism. But the interesting thing is, it actually doesn’t do it all that well. And it has to do with the fact that 50,000 years is a blink of an eye in evolutionary terms. In 50,000 years, you invent all these abstract sort of concepts. You invent the notion of a moral transgression. A baboon could be pissed off at another baboon who’s bitten him and chase him as a result but he doesn’t frame it as a moral failure. This moral transgression business is very new.
So how’s the brain going to do something like that in the eye-blink of 50,000 years? And you see all sorts of interesting improvisations. For example, there’s this part of the brain called the insular cortex, the insula. Any normal, run-of-the-mill mammal bites into a piece of food that’s rotten and rancid and toxic, the insular cortex activates, triggers all sorts of reflexes: you gag, you feel nauseous, you spit it out, whatever. A great way to avoid being poisoned by rotten food.
Human bites into rotten food, exact same thing. That’s what the insula is for. But then you do something different. Now sit down somebody and ask them to describe to you a time they did something totally rotten and skeevy to somebody else, or hear about some horrible moral transgression and "here’s this heartless robber baron that’s repossessing this elderly woman’s kidney dialysis machine". Some horrible, morally appalling act, and the insular cortex activates and you feel disgusted by what that person—hey, when you get to humans, this part of the brain that detects toxins in your tongue does moral disgust as well. A-ha, so that tells you a couple of things. It tells you why you could be so morally appalled by something that you feel nauseated by it. Hearing about that makes me feel sick to my stomach. Having done that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I just feel I need to wash my hands of having done that. "Out, out, damned spot."
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Ever heard a story that made you sick to your stomach? There is neurological wizardry at work that makes our sense of morality so visceral—and flawed. Have you ever witnessed something that made you sick to your stomach? Have you listened to a story so evil that you felt you might faint? Humans are different from other animals because we have a mind for symbolism. This knack for metaphor complicates our lives, and that is evident at a neurological level. Robert Sapolsky, professor of biology and neurology at Stanford University, explains that our insular cortex evolved to teach us to feel disgusted by things that would harm us: the taste of rotten fruit, the smell of infection—those triggers set off a visceral reaction (like nausea, gagging, vomiting). Gradually, our societies developed a concept of moral transgression but evolution didn't keep pace. Rather than evolve a new brain region to process moral disgust, it was (and is) funneled through the insular cortex. Our bodies can't tell the difference between moral and visceral disgust, which is why we very often mistake things that are strange to us as things that are bad or immoral. This explains why people are so judgmental about alternative lifestyles, and feel confident labelling other people's decisions as "wrong" and theirs as "right". Awareness of this misattributed impulse reaction can hopefully help us pause and think beyond our faulty wiring. Our moral instincts may be seriously flawed. Robert Sapolsky is the author of Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst.
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ROBERT M SAPOLSKY :
Robert M. Sapolsky holds degrees from Harvard and Rockefeller Universities and is currently a Professor of Biology and Neurology at Stanford University and a Research Associate with the Institute of Primate Research, National Museums of Kenya. His most recent book is Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Robert Sapolsky: We think metaphorically. We think in parables. We think in ways that are unrecognizable to other species. And that’s maybe 50,000 years old, right around the time that our ancestors started doing things like throwing pigment on the walls of a cave and this pattern of colors stands for an animal, stands for painting, cave paintings. The first sign that this is not a horse, this is a picture of a horse. And that was an incredible leap forward.
So we’re this symbolic species and our brain does this unbelievably fancy symbolism. But the interesting thing is, it actually doesn’t do it all that well. And it has to do with the fact that 50,000 years is a blink of an eye in evolutionary terms. In 50,000 years, you invent all these abstract sort of concepts. You invent the notion of a moral transgression. A baboon could be pissed off at another baboon who’s bitten him and chase him as a result but he doesn’t frame it as a moral failure. This moral transgression business is very new.
So how’s the brain going to do something like that in the eye-blink of 50,000 years? And you see all sorts of interesting improvisations. For example, there’s this part of the brain called the insular cortex, the insula. Any normal, run-of-the-mill mammal bites into a piece of food that’s rotten and rancid and toxic, the insular cortex activates, triggers all sorts of reflexes: you gag, you feel nauseous, you spit it out, whatever. A great way to avoid being poisoned by rotten food.
Human bites into rotten food, exact same thing. That’s what the insula is for. But then you do something different. Now sit down somebody and ask them to describe to you a time they did something totally rotten and skeevy to somebody else, or hear about some horrible moral transgression and "here’s this heartless robber baron that’s repossessing this elderly woman’s kidney dialysis machine". Some horrible, morally appalling act, and the insular cortex activates and you feel disgusted by what that person—hey, when you get to humans, this part of the brain that detects toxins in your tongue does moral disgust as well. A-ha, so that tells you a couple of things. It tells you why you could be so morally appalled by something that you feel nauseated by it. Hearing about that makes me feel sick to my stomach. Having done that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I just feel I need to wash my hands of having done that. "Out, out, damned spot."
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