Did Joseph Smith dictate the Book of Mormon using a secret, pre-written manuscript? Ep. 109
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If Joseph Smith made up
If Joseph Smith made up the Book of Mormon, how was he able to dictate the text while looking at a rock in a hat? In this episode, Dave explores what the historical record has to say.
Video transcript and additional notes: https://saintsunscripted.com/faith-an...
“A Response: ‘What the Manuscripts and the Eyewitnesses Tell Us about the Translation of the Book of Mormon,’” by Daniel C. Peterson: https://bit.ly/36VRiML
“Naturalistic Explanations of the Origin of the Book of Mormon: A Longitudinal Study,” by Brian Hales: http://bit.ly/3pLW2vE / http://bit.ly/3cxusP0
“Editor’s Introduction, Not So Easily Dismissed: Some Facts for Which Counter-explanations of the Book of Mormon Will Need to Account,” by Daniel C. Peterson: https://bit.ly/2MRZTsB
Book recommendations:
-“A Case for the Book of Mormon,” by Tad Callister.
-“Echoes and Evidences of the Book of Mormon,” by FARMS.
-”Book of Mormon Authorship Revisited,” by Noel B. Reynolds (editor).
Notes:
-Some may bring up the fact that there are several accounts of a screen or curtain being used early on in the translation of the Book of Mormon. The screen served multiple purposes (Don Bradley has some incredible insights into this in his book, “The Lost 116 pages”), but critics are quick to speculate about what reference materials Joseph may have secreted behind the curtain (again, no evidence exists to suggest that he had access to anything suspicious). That said, it appears that the curtain was only used for a short time, and likely only during the translation of the 116 pages that were subsequently lost and not included in the published Book of Mormon. A long list of documents that both mention and do not mention the curtain can be found here: http://bit.ly/3tetf4W
-Speaking of blankets and curtains, I enjoyed this quote from an interview done with David Whitmer and published by the Chicago Tribune on December 17, 1885, “In order to give privacy to the proceeding a blanket, which served as a portiere, was stretched across the family living room to shelter the translators and the plates from the eyes of any who might call at the house while the work was in progress. This, Mr. Whitmer says, was the only use made of the blanket, and it was not for the purpose of concealing the plates or the translator from the eyes of the amanuensis. In fact, Smith was at no time hidden from his collaborators, and the translation was performed in the presence of not only the persons mentioned, but of the entire Whitmer household and several of Smith’s relatives besides.”
-Some may attempt to discredit Emma Smith’s interview with her son, Joseph Smith III, by pointing out that she denies in the interview that Joseph Smith practiced plural marriage. Personally, I think that the topic of plural marriage was an extremely sensitive one for Emma. Just because she struggled immensely with this subject and denied that plural marriage had happened does not mean, in my opinion, that everything she had to say is a lie. The topic of plural marriage was singular, in my opinion. And the fact that her statements about Joseph’s lack of reference material during the translation match those of others familiar with the process is reassuring that her descriptions are, in fact, true.
-I’m including this quote because I’d never read it before and thought it was insightful: “Richmond, Ray Co., Mo. Feb 15, 1870⸻I cheerfully certify that I was familiar with the manner of Joseph Smith’s translating the book of Mormon. He translated the most of it at my Father’s house. And I often sat by and saw and heard them translate and write for hours together. Joseph never had a curtain drawn between him and his scribe while he was translating. He would place the director in his hat, and then place his face in his hat, so as to exclude the light, and then [read the words?] as they appeared before him.” -Testimony given in writing by Elizabeth Ann Whitmer Cowdery to William McLellin in 1870, cited in John W. Welch’s “Opening the Heavens: Accounts of Divine Manifestations, 1820-1844.
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Video transcript and additional notes: https://saintsunscripted.com/faith-an...
“A Response: ‘What the Manuscripts and the Eyewitnesses Tell Us about the Translation of the Book of Mormon,’” by Daniel C. Peterson: https://bit.ly/36VRiML
“Naturalistic Explanations of the Origin of the Book of Mormon: A Longitudinal Study,” by Brian Hales: http://bit.ly/3pLW2vE / http://bit.ly/3cxusP0
“Editor’s Introduction, Not So Easily Dismissed: Some Facts for Which Counter-explanations of the Book of Mormon Will Need to Account,” by Daniel C. Peterson: https://bit.ly/2MRZTsB
Book recommendations:
-“A Case for the Book of Mormon,” by Tad Callister.
-“Echoes and Evidences of the Book of Mormon,” by FARMS.
-”Book of Mormon Authorship Revisited,” by Noel B. Reynolds (editor).
Notes:
-Some may bring up the fact that there are several accounts of a screen or curtain being used early on in the translation of the Book of Mormon. The screen served multiple purposes (Don Bradley has some incredible insights into this in his book, “The Lost 116 pages”), but critics are quick to speculate about what reference materials Joseph may have secreted behind the curtain (again, no evidence exists to suggest that he had access to anything suspicious). That said, it appears that the curtain was only used for a short time, and likely only during the translation of the 116 pages that were subsequently lost and not included in the published Book of Mormon. A long list of documents that both mention and do not mention the curtain can be found here: http://bit.ly/3tetf4W
-Speaking of blankets and curtains, I enjoyed this quote from an interview done with David Whitmer and published by the Chicago Tribune on December 17, 1885, “In order to give privacy to the proceeding a blanket, which served as a portiere, was stretched across the family living room to shelter the translators and the plates from the eyes of any who might call at the house while the work was in progress. This, Mr. Whitmer says, was the only use made of the blanket, and it was not for the purpose of concealing the plates or the translator from the eyes of the amanuensis. In fact, Smith was at no time hidden from his collaborators, and the translation was performed in the presence of not only the persons mentioned, but of the entire Whitmer household and several of Smith’s relatives besides.”
-Some may attempt to discredit Emma Smith’s interview with her son, Joseph Smith III, by pointing out that she denies in the interview that Joseph Smith practiced plural marriage. Personally, I think that the topic of plural marriage was an extremely sensitive one for Emma. Just because she struggled immensely with this subject and denied that plural marriage had happened does not mean, in my opinion, that everything she had to say is a lie. The topic of plural marriage was singular, in my opinion. And the fact that her statements about Joseph’s lack of reference material during the translation match those of others familiar with the process is reassuring that her descriptions are, in fact, true.
-I’m including this quote because I’d never read it before and thought it was insightful: “Richmond, Ray Co., Mo. Feb 15, 1870⸻I cheerfully certify that I was familiar with the manner of Joseph Smith’s translating the book of Mormon. He translated the most of it at my Father’s house. And I often sat by and saw and heard them translate and write for hours together. Joseph never had a curtain drawn between him and his scribe while he was translating. He would place the director in his hat, and then place his face in his hat, so as to exclude the light, and then [read the words?] as they appeared before him.” -Testimony given in writing by Elizabeth Ann Whitmer Cowdery to William McLellin in 1870, cited in John W. Welch’s “Opening the Heavens: Accounts of Divine Manifestations, 1820-1844.
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David: Instagram: davidesnell
Taylor: Instagram: tsyorg
Samantha: Instagram: sam.iris.yello
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